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Gemini 4 Carbon

Google · Gemini series · released 10 Nov 2026 · as of 13 Nov, 20:12 UTC

48
02550751000 = all negative · 50 = neutral · 100 = all positive

No clear lean

Reddit has no clear lean on Gemini 4 Carbon: an index of 48 from 150 opinions in 43 threads last 7 days; its 95% interval, 42–53, crosses neutral 50. That is 20th of the 25 models with a full read. It was released 3 days ago (10 Nov), so these are first impressions, which can still shift.

The share praising is lowest for speed, 12% of 17 opinions. On benchmarks: 2nd of 128 on Arena text, 2nd of 107 on the intelligence index.

Per day

The last 14 UTC days. Each day's own index at its value, with its 95% interval.

  1. Sat 31 Oct1
    1 opinion, no index below 10
  2. Sun 1 Nov4
    4 opinions, no index below 10
  3. Mon 2 Nov0
    0 opinions, no index below 10
  4. Tue 3 Nov1
    1 opinion, no index below 10
  5. Wed 4 Nov1
    1 opinion, no index below 10
  6. Thu 5 Nov1
    1 opinion, no index below 10
  7. Fri 6 Nov0
    0 opinions, no index below 10
  8. Sat 7 Nov1
    1 opinion, no index below 10
  9. Sun 8 Nov0
    0 opinions, no index below 10
  10. Mon 9 Nov15
  11. Tue 10 Nov82
  12. Wed 11 Nov41
  13. Thu 12 Nov9
    9 opinions, no index below 10
  14. Fri 13 Nov2 so far
    2 opinions, no index below 10

The one full-read day this week is within noise of the rest of the week.

Is Gemini 4 Carbon getting worse?

This measures opinion, not capability: whether Reddit's view of Gemini 4 Carbon moved, not whether the model changed. No week-on-week comparison: the 7 days before are not a full read (8 opinions from 6 threads and 8 accounts).

Praised and criticised

Share of the opinions on each topic that praise it. Tagged by a language model; topics never feed the index.

  1. Costsplit28
  2. Intelligencesplit26
  3. Writing & tonesplit20
  4. Refusalssplit18
  5. Speedmostly criticised17
  6. Codingsplit15
  7. Follow-throughsplit12

Reddit and the benchmarks

Its rank on each list, bottom to top. Outside numbers sit beside Reddit and never feed its index. Hover a name for the value and its source.

  1. #20 of 25 with a full read
  2. #2 of 128 on Arena
  3. #3 of 94 on Arena
  4. #2 of 107 at Artificial Analysis
  5. #2 of 96 at Epoch

$2 in / $10 out per million tokens · 1.05M context · reasoning mode · OpenRouter, 13 Nov

Per subreddit

The model's index within each subreddit, from 10 opinions; faded below 30 opinions, 20 threads or 20 accounts.

  1. r/GeminiAI93
  2. r/SillyTavernAI34

Threads behind the opinions

The 20 threads with the most opinions about this model. A thread's index reads the opinions in it, not the post, and shows from 10 opinions.

ThreadSubredditOpinionsIndex
Claude released Fable 5.2. Destroys Gemini 4 Carbon in almost every benchmarkr/GeminiAI2239
Gemini 4 Carbon releasedr/GeminiAI1854
Looks like Gemini 4 Carbon is herer/SillyTavernAI1647
Gemini 4 Carbon is liver/GeminiAI1350
Gemini 4 Carbon is out on Open routerr/SillyTavernAI9–
Gemini 4 Argon/Carbon Impossible to JB?r/SillyTavernAI6–
Gemini 4 Carbon on high spent 45 minutes and 262k tokens thinking, but produced no code review. Anyone else?r/GeminiAI5–
Gemini 4 Carbon made a 2-min 4K animated short in Blender, entirely in code. Big jump from Argon.r/Bard5–
Gemini 4 Carbon out todayr/GeminiAI4–
Google Gemini 4 Carbon is now generally available in GitHub Copilot, designed for complex coding, agentic workflows, and reasoning tasksr/GithubCopilot3–
I think Google is getting way too much hate over the Gemini 4 Carbon rolloutr/GeminiAI3–
Gemini 4 Carbon already expanded to Pro Plan users on AI Mode/Search, but not in the other environments (such as Gemini App, Antigravity, AI Studio) just saw this change a hour ago.r/GeminiAI3–
Gemini 4 Carbon vs Claude Fable 5.2r/GeminiAI3–
Gemini 4 Carbon is coming to Pro users.r/GeminiAI3–
Gemini 4 Argon and Carbon score 91.7% and 92.6% on SimpleBench respectively. But Claude Fable 5.2 scores 94.9%, putting it in the lead instead.r/singularity3–
Gemini 4 Carbon takes the top spot on CursorBench 4.0.r/GeminiAI3–
Gemini 4 Carbon is herer/Bard3–
Gemini 4 Carbon is now open on the API, and Google says Argon is still the better pick for most codingr/GeminiAI2–
Gemini 4 Carbonr/SillyTavernAI2–
What I said? Google's so back!in 1 commentr/GeminiAI1–

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